Charlene Edge writes with clarity and sensitivity. He groomed him to take over when he died. LEAVING Destroyed my life. Established in 1988 , its location is wonderful where one can have a view of wide rage snow-capped mountains and can enjoy meals in the outdoor too. Your previous content has been restored. Yeah, if you want to read, you might find it in a library, or you could buy it. Through the subsequent years, we stayed busy meeting the challenges of me living with chronic illness, helping to care for my quadriplegic father, and raising our children. At each of those three crossroads, we chose to do whatever our immediate leadership chose to do, which was to stay with The Way. Dr. J. Craig Martindale Sr., age 71 of Murfreesboro, went home to be with his Lord and Savior Thursday September 6, 2012. Loy Craig Martindale (age 74) is listed at 2145 Timber Creek Dr Apt E Toledo, Oh 43615 and is affiliated with the Republican Party. I was disclosed awhile back that TWI actually owns a house in Toledo, but it was confirmed that Craig was not living that TWI's house. Within a couple months after I left, I got deeply involved for over a year with an ex-Way online forum which provided much needed support and connections. Once I lived in a houseful of Way women, for a short period of eight months. After I left in 2005, we learned that other top leaders had been aware of or involved with the abuse of authority in regard to sex; it had been rampant among the inner circle of top leaders. But better late than never. I have gone so far as to hang our with Moonies, sat next to E Farley Jones and his wife, attended JW Kingdon Hall meetings, discoursed with Mormons. I was 20 years old. We all spoke in tongues after 2 days. You can post now and register later. If he wanted to blow out his liver, it was his liver to ruin. London, United Kingdom. Of all websites, the Frank Report should be known for this benefit. Not to mention profanity was a common thing. Its a good thing she and her book have received more attention and Ive invited her on my radio show/podcast to provide her even more exposure. Where in the world were they to go now after this? It had a seal of approval for sex in which leaders who do their Bible research said it was OK to have plenty of sex before marriage. Perhaps The Way was further enlightened to allow women to hold leadership roles, much as the Mormons increased the number of people who could go to Heaven over time. Whatever happen or didnt happen. Just to clarify: the group named in the poster above, Prepare The Way International School of Ministry, has nothing to do with The Way International, which is based in Ohio and is the group featured in this post. Believing that God led her to Wierwille, she underwent his intensive two-year training program, The Way Corps, designed to produce loyal leaders. I was a child, an innocent, seduced by those more worldly wise than myself. Free company director check. I guess he must have missed a couple. If you were just a regular believer, you were shielded from much of the inner workings. Talk about surviving lawsuits. That probably kicked in so he didn't have to work at UPS during the Christmas season and tell tall stories that could get around. Craig Martindale's Email Addresses & Phone Numbers. Phone / Text: (305) 783-7083 I would listen to Reverend Martindales teachings in my car trying to do the right thing as a Christian woman. Through her personal story, Charlene Edge shows how a vulnerable person can be seduced into following an authoritarian leader and how difficult it can be to find a way out. I lived in 4 way homes and when things went wrong, we stayed up until they got right or the individual causing the issue had to move on. Contact. The Way Corps was like the Gestapo . This widespread progressive micromanagement, especially regarding time, commitment and obedience to the Ministry, personal finances, and shunning those who left, was due mainly to control tactics and doctrines gradually instigated during L. Craig Martindales tenure as the second president of The Way, a position he held from 1982 until 2000. What is behind this incredible double standard? Some of these girls were underage. Allquestions regarding L. Craig Martindale were deemed anathema.no one was allowed to ask. Ive probably received more answers to prayer since leaving The Way than during my whole twenty-eight years of loyalty combined. Even Craig Martindale. As of 2017, I still work as a studio assistant, but I stepped down from being the manager around 2011 when I established a pet-sitting business which has been successful and another therapeutic outlet. Well said. Hell no. I too was in the Way Ministry in the 70s and early 80s and still have many of the books, tapes and magazines. Now, its the ideological cults that proliferate. Ive used the popular names for the groups rather than their formal ones which would be even less familiar to people. Does that make the Catholic church a cult? His teachings were right on. Ms. Lee, I also joined the ministry in 1974 went WOW met my wife of 44 years. Trust in Him and He will lead you into all knowledge. This is supposed to be abhorrent sexual acts? By the way, her article is not in response to mine. A fun day shooting with Pet Pals TV for a segment. I have never felt so close to my Heavenly Father. Why not credit dictor paul wierwille, "founding president" of their phony "ministry"? It took you 17 yrs to realize all that is said was going on. As for not respecting religion being intolerant, respect and toleration mean very different things. You wouldn.t let stray dogs run amok would you Actaeon? For a few years thereafter, I leaned toward Christian Universalism. [To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.] We got hooked immediately by his knowledge of the scriptures. They have morons like Charlene's 2nd corpse bruddah, the mighty "rev" gerry wrenn, and jallymog john Lynn to do that for them better than Rosie the Riveter and Donna could ever do it, and more faithfully too! By . Craig Martindale Group Head of Capital Management. Actaeon, The fear I had in leaving my ex, was something I could not describe. Now I understand how The Way has a strong belief that everyone else not holding their beliefs is inferior, which is the basis for you trying to claim I had zero impact on you naming the cult you were in. In discussing The Way with ex-members of other authoritarian groups and from reading accounts from various books and articles and comparing those with my and others experiences in The Way, Ive learned that The Way was not unique in its approach to group-think, control tactics, and practices resulting in emotional, spiritual, and other abuses. VP plagaruzed. See this article about it: https://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/2008/07/writer-in-bridgewater-found-way-out-of.html, the real agenda was to propagate sexual acts we would ordinarily find abhorrent. Anyone who continues to say G D all the time and not think twice about it, I have to wonder if you are really born again. We know right from wrong. After the "kid in a shed" thing at Tech, he dropped off the face of the the earth. In spite of those experiences, I still think the forum provides excellent support and information for people seeking help in leaving The Way. Perhaps you didnt realize that some people can be that evil while teaching the Word of God, i.e., the Bible from a Fundamentalist approach. The teachings of Dr. Weirwill are sound, sometimes more true than any organized religion that is generally respected elsewhere. In 1995 our local Corps leadership, a married couple who were 1st Family Corps, were made mark and avoid. The Family Corps was a specially designed Way Corps program for adults with children. Three of those crossroads coincided with three major Way exoduses when followers left en masse around 1987, 1989, and 2000. L Craig Martindale: Hidden Riches in Amos 12 sessions March 13, 2021-May 22, 2021. We can Identify it, use the protocol the word gives to try to heal the Body of Christ and if any individual decides they dont want to do right, I have enough sense to leave that person alone. Not that the leader is having sex. Undertow: My Escape from the Fundamentalism and Cult Control of The Way International(TM)is Charlene Edges riveting memoir about the power of words to seduce, betray, and, in her case, eventually save. And yes its hypocritical for a person who claims to be chaste for Jesus to be screwing around. But I couldnt take the hypocrisy, brainwashing (repetitive teachings, 3 to 4 times a week hearing Martindales voice), threats, and SO much more. And Scientology was probably there too using what was then their much more accustomed front of Dianetics. Some personal friendships that were shunned from decades past, due to The Ways mark and avoid doctrine, have been renewed. Ummmm yes it was. It occurs to me that another thing to consider is that if NXIVM operated at all like Scientology with respect to celebrities, someone like Oxenberg may have gotten very different treatment from an average member, and special efforts may have been made to shield her from certain sorts of things. Earlier that October, my then fifteen-year old son, his eyes damp with tears, said to me, Mom, I feel empty inside. That was it. I was in The Way for years. Couldn't even tell his wife was a lesbian. The Way International, of which I was involved for 12 years, did this and more. I have published a memoir of my experiences in The Way. We use our legal experience and technology to help lawyers connect with prospects. These men had seniority to these girls by 20 to 40 years! Threats to expose .Twi's unethical financial practices and secret holdings? Theft was a common problem. Thank you for being brave and sharing your experience. WOW in Kalamazoo, MI? La Secta Que Sedujo al Poder en Mxico by Juan Alberto Vasquez. In September, 1984, almost one year after moving back home, I married my current husband, who was involved with The Way on a local level and had been one of my Spiritual Partners (Way Corps trainees financed their training by soliciting people to donate funds. News. As for Oxenberg, it seems that many people think that she did enough of the modules, and was around long enough, that she should have started to realize what was going on though I have yet to see anyone say with certainty when the modules with the most objectionable material were presented, and that Oxenberg unquestionably would have taken them. That was the beginning of the expansion of the Way. a year for LCM, was "not to shabby." June 22, 2022 . Spoken with parents whose sons, and daughters, have been spirited sway by self help, home spun gurus, etc and felt their helplessness. He invited us to go to Ohio for the Power for Abundant Living Class. Quis autem velum iure reprehe nderit. This chick is selling her book. I have yet to hear or find anyone better. Martindale was himself an excellent teacher and his behavior should not be condoned but forgiven. And no, I will neither purchase nor read her book. Because your leaders are so holy, spiritual, above reproach but are easily manipulated by sexy devious women. I was disclosed awhile back that TWI actually owns a house in Toledo, but it was confirmed that Craig was not living that TWI's house. We found a church we both liked. I had to figure out whom I could trust. For the most part, life is good, and certainly much larger than when I was a Way believer. But please dont think your experience was all there was. The Rise and Expansion of the Christian Church in the First Century by Martindale, L Craig and a great selection of related books, art and collectibles available now at AbeBooks.com. This is in response to Frank Reports Former Member: The Way International Biblical Ministry Was Rife With Sexual Excesses Just Like Other Cults. Undertow: My Escape from the Fundamentalism and Cult Control of The Way International. Our second child was born in 1990. Craig Martindale was VP pet. While I managed to come to Christ despite it, I can recall that what put my back up the most, even at 20, was that I was not allowed to take notes nor ask questions. Reverend Martindale said so many curse words in his teachings that I could not even listen to them with my children in the car. His work has been cited in hundreds of news outlets, like The New York Times, The Daily Mail, VICE News, CBS News, Fox News, New York Post, New York Daily News, Oxygen, Rolling Stone, People Magazine, The Sun, The Times of London, CBS Inside Edition, among many others in all five continents. As far as him not knowing about Donna and Rozilla - it is likely that he *did* know. The things he taught 60 years ago are truths that are just being discovered by ministers of today. LOL, It was more of a statement than a question. (Lawsuits Against TWI and Allegations of Sexual Misconduct). This is not Victorian England. I think on the next Way Productions Showcase, they should include a sketch entitled "What Craig Does With His Time But Not Your Money". One hopes that he is giving 20% of his il-gotten gains back to TWI. I come across Mormon missionaries often. My husband also had two different job changes during that time. Rosie, Donna, Coward and Wanda Wierwille Allen, and da forehead himself, all wanna make it to their Gunnison Emeritus retirement home. (Click hereto access an overview of events and links to more details regarding my experience with the therapist.). I began to see the anything goes sexual attitude of the women I lived with. Last I looked, Jesus was the only perfect person to walk on this earth. There, that wasnt so hard, was it g? So, today.martindale collects his cult-pension (65K) and social security benefits (15k-17k?) Why Didnt We Know About Leaders Sexual Advances? the man, speak for her because he is Gods only authority and everything about her is weak and incapable of being holy without him. My husband had a college degree, but not in teaching. Cults are primarily frauds. I think as king David, Craig should have left his leadership position, ask Gods forgiveness and move forward and continue to bless others with the teachings that he knew so well. Loyalty , silence, betrayal. My husband officially left at the end of March, 2006. In January, 2014, his license was revoked. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Years later I came to realize that the us-them mentality is a human condition and one we can easily fall into. Email: frankparlato@gmail.com, Nxivm Perv Leader Keith Raniere Taught Rape as a Metaphor for Orgasm, A Frank Report on Undertow and Charlene Edge | Charlene L. Edge, Former Member: The Way International Biblical Ministry Was Rife With Sexual Excesses Just Like Other Cults Frank Report | Never enough glitter, https://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/2008/07/writer-in-bridgewater-found-way-out-of.html, The Gold Standard for Frank Report Readers Is to be a Teetotaler Virgin, NYS Child Victims Act Takes Effect Hundreds of Lawsuits Filed. I joined the ministry in 1974 and I still have my books and other written materials that are based on the truths of Gods words. I try to make sure that ever day, I am kind to people, and animals. Anyone who did ask was immediately confronted. If you look in the archived threads here on GS, search for a thread calledAnyone seen Loy Boy lately? Oddly no woman is to hold positions of authority per the Way since they taught woman is for man and man is for God. That vast hole in my soul was not only affecting me, it was affecting my children. Does he get other perks?secret credit card, travel perks, access to Camp Gunnison, healthcare plan, etc.?? I have heard it, but I didn't know that people had found out it was true. However I stand with the teachings of the Dr have not wavered from the doctrines that he taught. Within a year or so of Martindales confession and dismissal, he quietly disappeared from The Way, out of sight to the faithful. Lifelong lying, stealing, adultery, hypocrisy, and spiritual abuse of innocent christians and idealistic hippies, and covering it all up in Jesus' name is an expensive calling.