was terry hobbs ever found

UNLESS YOU KNOW NOT GETTING UP THERE AND LOOKING AT IT ALL. VICKIE: UM, JUST SOME BOARDS, LOOKED LIKE SOME ONE HAD LIKE MADE A DEER STAND, A LONG TIME AGO OR SOMETHING AND JUST SOME BOARDS AND THEY KINDA HAD YOU KNOW LIKE A FORTRIDGE: OKAY, AND WERE THEY NAILED ONTO THE TREE OR COULD YOU TELL THAT? In addition to Billys statements and the similar questions asked in the 2009 deposition that both pointed to Terry Hobbs being an alleged homosexual or bisexual man, the criminal profiler Brent Turvey claimed in 1996 that whoever committed this murder was a closet homosexual who projected a macho image. The third boy was found in the water at approx. Douglas believes the act was meant to dominate, control, humiliate and punish. JMB is a freaking nut but I think he loved Michelle so much that when Chris died, she did, too. Ok, now kiss. Those partially digested vegetables not only prove the long held belief that the boys died around 7pm, shortly after being seen, but that Stevie most likely ate those vegetables right near 5:00 pm. I dont believe when Terry first saw them that he intended to kill them. Problem is, many of the things he says about him are also true for the WM3, at least Damien. VICKIE: YES. The only person whose DNA would be in that ligature isthe person who tied the knots, Echols said. VICKIE: I REALLY COULDNT TELL THAT. This is a theory about what could have happened the night of May 5, 1993. VICKIE: I REALLY COULDNT TELL THAT. (source) Additionally, a roommate of Richards also testified that LG was not at their home on the 5th but that he remembered LGs mother calling looking for him. Now what did LG have to hide? They both have bias, so I think its important to keep that in mind. Additionally, Stevie, by both Pam and Terrys accounts was a well behaved boy who did not disobey. My belief is that these items were used in the clean up. The ME examiner again supports this alleged statement, as Stevie, although probably the most conscious during the attack had little to no defensive wounds. DNA testing in 2007 has identified a hair fragment found on Michael Moore's bindings to be consistent with Hobbs. A few pages prior, he writes "Damien and Jason had no indicative violence in their pasts, and while Jessie was known for a hot temper, he channeled his aggression into pursuits such as wrestling." The first most essential piece of evidence came from Stevie, Michael and Chris other best friend, Aaron Hutchinson. Additionally, there is an ample amount of evidence, in my opinion, that Terry might have sexually abused all of his children. In Terry Hobbs daughters own diary she talks about having dreams about having sex with her dad and that she is sure that he didnt molest her from age 15 years old to 19. I have a very strong suspicion that Narlene lied about dropping LG off at home and there is ample evidence to support this. It seems more likely that someonesawHobbs make a pass at Jacoby and then told Natalie Maines lawyers about it. When LG was interviewed by police one of the things they noted was LGs suspicious relationship with Richard Simpson. VICKIE: IN MIDDLE AFTERNOONRIDGE: OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU FIND WHEN YOU CAME TO THE AREA? West Memphis Three. Additionally, his wounds later attracted turtles to further bite his face, making his injuries more severe. We have a man, by his own admittance, who was in the spot where they crime occurred all night long. However, according to Billy, one of the boys kicked Terry after he was caught and brought to him. I cant be sure, but its possible that the interviewer in this deposition meant Roy not Ray. These statements have protected Hobbs for seven years. The reason why Chriss skin was removed but his penis remained, i.e. If Terry was already trained in this technique, it is a powerful piece of evidence against him, in my opinion. CHRISTY, I WAS TALKING TO A GIRL NAMED CHRISTY AND SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE THOUGHT THEY HAD FOUND ONE OF THE BODIES. Meaning to me that he was the third one caught). He continued to say that it was known in the drug world that Terry was gay or bisexual and that he preferred sex with young boys. 9pm by his aunt, and lastly, remember the very obvious lie Narlene made, and even convinced her two children to make,on the standabout seeing Damien and Domini on the service road.. What that may mean is that the last known place that LG was seen was Lakeshore Trailerpark. Was it because he was running around frantically trying to cover up for the crime? Or alone at night with people swarming the area. For more information, please see our NARLENE: She meant the mommy, the daddy and the son,(LG) she said I dont know whats going on over there and she said, they are making me nervous, shes a christian girl, she said and I got out of there, I said yeah, I get bad feelings around them too. RIDGE: ABOUT TIME WAS IT YOU WENT TO TRY AND GO TO THE CLUB HOUSE? This could have given him ample time to clean the area. Echols lawyer, Patrick Benca, reviewed evidence earlier this year that was thought to have been lost. Since Jacoby knew that Hobbs was with Pam at 9pm, he clearly meant that Hobbs had left for the two hours that Jacoby had previously claimed they were together. For some reason, unknown to the public at least, Terry Hobbs was never questioned. 0. art mollen md age. CHRISTY, I WAS TALKING TO A GIRL NAMED CHRISTY AND SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE THOUGHT THEY HAD FOUND ONE OF THE BODIES. May 1993. Basically, anything that both sides agree with I consider to be a fact because its gone undisputed. He told police that Jessie had confessed to him and that he said that he had just held the boys while the others killed them. On Nov. 6 police in Memphis responded to a call that someone had been shot at 4460 Kerwin St., the home of Pamela and Terry Hobbs. If Michael had kicked Terry that could have been the impetus that pushed Terry to hit him back. When Narlene was interviewed she claimed to have dropped LG off at his home. THEY UM. After all, it's the south. He actually worked in a slaughterhouse. So, essentially, the boys were trapped unless they were able to get to the log. A rather uncommon knot for a regular person but a very common knot for a former butcher or farmer. I believe as David dragged Chris with him back to the others, he picked up one of the boards that lay in the open nearby. Apparently, David initially hit Chris in the face and head with his fists until Terry came over and ordered the boys to be stripped. You have to keep in mind that the statements from Bennie Guy and Billy Stewart are considered hearsay and most likely would not stand up in a court of law alone. LG also lied extensively about his whereabouts the night of the 5th. I am scared and I am fearful . The West Memphis Police Department and other officials are being accused of stonewalling the release of the evidence for over a year and informing Echols team that the evidence was lost or destroyed. RIDGE: WAS IT THERE WHERE YOUR CLUB IS OR WAS IT SOME WHERE ELSE IN THOSE WOODS? Terry admitted himself that he whipped Stevie and by Amandas own account, Terry was a violent man who left welts and bruises on her when he hit her. Terry's father became a skilled butcher while in the military and used this knowledge to open about thirty restaurants. The final sightings of the boys had them heading into Robin Hood Hills at 6:30.(source). Stevie promises and the boys leave. THEY WERENT SCARED THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY HAD SEEN THEM IN THERE ONE DAY?AARON: UH-UH (NO), BECAUSE THEY NEVER SEEN US. Buddy allegedly confessed that when the four returned to the truck, Terry and David looked to the teens and promised to kill them if they ever spoke of the crime to anyone. Mark on Stevies leg, possibly made by edge of the board found at crime scene. The second that Terry would have hit Michael in the face or head, would also be the split second he knew all three had to die. The group also stated that Echols submitted a FOIA request over 18 months ago, but the request went unanswered, which is a violation of Arkansas state law. Echols ultimately ended filing a lawsuit against the police department. Additionally, they would have focused on someone who lived in West Memphis and knew the Blue Beacon Woods well. Sorry in advance to those of you who are tired of reading about this case! Thursday, Hobbs told Action News 5 he didn't do it. I dont know. When he found out his friends were missing, he immediately told his mom that they had to go the clubhouse in the woods. [2] Judge Brian S. Miller dismissed the case and subsequently ordered Hobbs to pay legal fees incurred by the singer in the amount of $17,590. The dynamic between them must have been s fucked up and dark and tense. And keeping the knife as a trophy? If the boys truly had interrupted the men in the middle of a sex act, then it would be understandable why there were sexual overtones to their murder. AARON: IT WAS RIGHT BESIDE OUR UM, TREE HOUSE. The kind of men who do these things are, uh. He ends up staying and watching TV with Amanda. -5:00 Terry Hobbs drops Pam off at work and returns home What happened next is a theory supported by evidence and interviews. Based on the reports made available to the public pertaining to Damien's mental health issues, this is a flat out lie. They had contusions, which are bruises, which had to have happened before death, on their ears, under eyes, over eyes, on forehead, etc. Why in the world were the two men (or Terry alone) searching for the boys when it was light out if Terry had already said that Stevie could stay out till 8:00 pm? RIDGE: IT WAS EARLY IN THE MORNING OR LATE AT NIGHT OR LATE IN THE EVENING? It would take another 14 years before he was even interviewed about his whereabouts that night. She yelled for him to get out of her home. They believed something inappropriate may be going on between the two, who practically lived together. This theory supportsbothsides of the debate. RIDGE OKAY, NOW THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD WITH HIS AUNT WHAT IS HER NAME AGAIN? I think we have the answer now; Stevie and Chris appeared to have been tortured because they were the ones who were conscious. My suspicion is that LGs parents knew he participated in this crime ( I will touch more on this later) and Narlene, being LGs aunt, probably had some limited knowledge of his participation, too. And its about time we started putting some pressure on him for some real answers. In my assessment, it speaks volumes to the guilt of Terry Hobbs that the children were tied up in the same manner as hogs being prepared for transport and that two of the children were tied up using square knots and figure eight knots, the same knots used by farmers and butchers. Terry Hobbs would later state that he shot Jackie Jr. in self-defense. Now Im back to believing it was TH. Why was Terry 18 minutes late picking Pam up? As CrimeOnline previously reported, Damien Echols, along with friends Jason Baldwin and Jesse Misskelly, were convicted of murder in 1994, in connection with the murders of Chris Byers, Michael Moore, and Steven. One thing that was agreed upon if you read between the lines, is that Chris was dead before he was put in the water. He was one of four children and came from a strict and religious family. He said, well dont you put yourself in that kind of trouble. Sometime around 2pm the day of the 6th, Stevie, Michael and Chris were found murdered in a drainage ditch filled with water in the Blue Beacon Woods. The two teens apparently complied with Terrys demands and ripped the clothes off of the children. Listening now! Also, Chris and Michael told Aaron never to tell Stevie. According to Bennies statement, Terry stopped for a moment to yell, Im going to teach your fucking ass! The act of tying up three unconscious boys who were near death at this point, was clearly an unnecessary act. If Echols is successful in court, the DNA testing process will likely take months. He flat out states that there is "not one shred of evidence and noting in the behavioral backgrounds of Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, or Jessie Misskelley Jr. to suggest that any were guilty of murder." RIDGE: THESE MEN. [5], In 2003, Hobbs was arrested for possession of marijuana and found guilty.[6]. Here are two statements made by Narlene to police about LG. (Charlotte Bly interview). Those who didnt know the case that well simply believed that Chris entire penis and scrotum had been cut off with a knife. The purpose, according to FBI profiler, John Douglas, was to humiliate, demean and control. Apparently, Terry then viciously attacked Chris genitals. Which means that when Natalies lawyers dug into Terry Hobbs past, there were obviously some people who made similar allegations to the ones Billy made 4 years later. In other words, he was likely being molested. Terry's guilt or innocence doesn't even cross that 1 cop's mindthe only thing that matters is NOT being discovered for liking dick. I think David Jacoby made a mistake/ a slip when he claimed that he saw the three boys, two on bicycles and one on a skateboard on the street when Terry showed up. Even the autopsy report shows that. Terry and David are not the only ones with suspicions and allegations of homosexuality surrounding them, though. I personally believe that this boy was Michael Moore. When you realize that Michaels body was found by the tree and not by where he was placed on the bank, you conclude two things. That hair was then secured to Michaels body as Terry tied him up. Perhaps. And that is extremely significant. ~Even Peretti agrees that Chris had post mortem wounds in his groin area as well as pre mortem. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I've gone down this rabbit hole time and time again. And he said he was out riding his bike that his grand paw had bought him. The suspicious part about this is that in a deposition taken in 2009, Terry Hobbs had the very same allegations implied against him that Billy Stewart made in 2013, four years later, but this time the implications were made by Natalie Maines lawyers. RIDGE: ALRIGHT, WHEN YOU SAW THESE FIVE OUT THERE IN THE WOODS AND THEY WERE DOING THESE THINGS THAT WERE BAD OKAY WAS THIS AT DAYTIME OR WAS IT NIGHTTIME? JMB is a freaking nut but I think he loved Michelle so much that when Chris died, she did, too. (source). This is most likely when Stevie asked Terry if he could continue riding bikes with his friends. HE ALWAYS TELLS THEM WHAT TO DO AND THEY DO IT. Had LG engaged in sexual activity with Hobbs and Jacoby prior to this day? WE NEED TO GO TO THE CLUB HOUSE. Hobbs, who dropped Pamela off at work at around 4:30 p.m., picked her up at approximately 9 p.m. and walked straight to a payphone to report the boy missing. I allege that LG was confronted by his parents because of some evidence that pointed to his guilt, and when caught, LG told them that Damien had committed the murder and he that had only helped them in some small way. Three boys were seen riding their bikes around the neighborhood of West Memphis, last seen heading to the Robin Hood Hill woods at 6:30. RIDGE OKAY, THEN HE WAS AT LAKESHORE AND LEAVING TO GO SOME WHERE? Ive thought about this in length and I think I understand what may have occurred. Just finished the trilogy and West of Memphis and I noticed something that made THE lightbulb off about him. HE SAID WE WENT THERE EVERYDAY BUT WOULDNT GO ON FRIDAY AND I TOLD HIM WHY HOW DO YOU KNOW FRIDAY? Most of the sightings of the boys were when the three were riding on two bicycles. Then Vicki cuts him off and says he means "sex". During a special presentation at CrimeCon 2022 Las Vegas, former New York State prosecutor Jim Clemente joined Truth & Justice podcast host, Bob Ruff, and investigative journalist, George Jared, to take a deep dive into a conversation Jared previously had with Terry Hobbs. This is supported by evidence as well. West Memphis 3 murders Wiki is a FANDOM Lifestyle Community. Terry Wayne Hobbs was born on May 21st, 1958. If Stevie had disobeyed and never returned home or even waited a full two hours before doing so, he would have lost his bicycle privleges for two weeks, and probably would have gotten a pretty severe whipping from Terry. VICKIE: UM, WEST MEMPHIS POLICE HAD ALL OF THE AREA ROPED OFF, VICKIE: I WENT TO THE DEAD END IT WAS YOU KNOW. Which is right in line with why this attack would have occurred. And finally, if Terry claims he never saw Stevie that day (despite statements from Jacoby, Jamie Ballard and her sister and mother) there is one extremely significant question Terry has to answer: why did Stevie have partially digested vegetables in his stomach? However, the police knew LG was lying to them and yet his DNA, hair and prints have presumably never been tested against those found at the scene. After some time, they pulled up beside the Blue Beacon Woods. At 8:42, officer Meeks was dispatched to another call and left. The prosecution would mention a stick and Perreti kept saying, Or a 24. Vickie Hutchinson described the clubhouse like this: RIDGE: WHAT DID THE CLUB HOUSE CONSIST OF? After an altercation with his wife, Pam Hobbs, wherein he reportedly hit her, he shot his brother-in-law. Roy Taylor was the marijuana, cocaine, and crystal meth supplier for Mr. Hobbsand me. Im not sure if that rumor is true or not, but I do believe TH may have done it & DJ knew about it. David Jacoby is the key to this case. However, according to Billy, one of the boys kicked Terry after he was caught and brought to him. Personally? Here is a timeline of how events may have unfolded that day. And in another statement made a week later, Aaron again says he believes his friends got caught spying on the men and one of them ordered the others to hold the boys while he killed them: AARON: NOBODY EVEN KNOWS THAT.. THAT I KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. [Feature Photo: Murder victims Chris Byers, Michael Moore and Stevie Branch/UMKC School of Law], Alex Murdaugh Begins Prison Sentence With New Haircut, What About Buster Murdaugh? He flipped flopped between being at home with his mother and being at his friend Richards house from 5:30-9pm. HES NEVER SEEN THEM, AARON: CAUSE IT WAS ON A FRIDAY WHENEVER HE WENT DOWN THERE WITH US. Why was shesosure, in her mind, that Damiens mother was lying about being with him all night? Another indicator that points to Terrys guilt and the truth in the alleged Buddy/LG statements, lies with what was discovered on Michael Moores body. I truly believe the real killer(s) are still out there and it's not the WM3. According to Bennie and Billys account, Terry Hobbs then walked over to the other boys, pulled out a knife and ordered the teens to remove their clothes. The murders still haunt me and I will ALWAYS want justice for Stevie, Michael & Christopher. He said they were doing "what Indians do". However, Richard vehemently denied lending LG his car that night. And why would Narlene have any need to lie for LG if he was innocent? RIDGE: SO HOW ABOUT DO YOU KNOW STEVE, DID HE EVER GO DOWN THERE WITH YOU? LGs whereabouts that night are equally suspicious, if not more so. Terry told me at that time (sometime after 9:00 p.m.), that he had called the police to report that Stevie was missing. RIDGE: OKAY. A bitemark on Stevies face would lend credibility to the statement that another bite occurred on Chris genital area. But what absolutely cannot happen is that 1 cop having his reputation, career, family, and future be staked on the guilt/innocence/fortitude/silence of that dick-lover Terry. What purpose would there be to strip the boys naked? Tragically, for all involved, no one seemed interested or would return their calls. By the time Buddy would have been dropped off at Lakeshore and the other three arrived in West Memphis, it could have been somewhere around 8:15-8:30. Upon the delivery, I saw Mr. Hobbs holding hands with the same man who he was at my house with on May 5, 1993. YEA IT WAS BUT, I WOULD THINK SO, IN ORDER TO HOLD ALL 3 LITTLE 8 YEAR OLDS THAT IT WAS PRETTY STURDY. Twenty years later, in 2013, two parents of the murdered boys, Mark Byers and Pam Hicks, hired a lawyer to help them look at any evidence in the prosecutions possession. The kick, along with the humiliation of being spied on, would have made Terry snap because he did not stand for any kind of disobedience. This testing, though not as conclusive as traditional DNA testing, can help to exclude suspects as potential donors of physical evidence. It seems extremely unlikely that one person would have been able to do this on their own in such a short period of time. In 2011, Jamie Ballard, her sister and her mother came forward when they discovered that Terry Hobbs claimed to have never seen the boys on the 5th. thirty minutes to clean up the crime scene before it got dark. They also could have used them to dry and clean their feet after entering the ditch. RIDGE: OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU WENT DOWN THERE? (source) LG had been job hunting that day and was likely wearing a shirt and tie for his interviews. Some details of this timeline are facts, corroborated by multiple sources, other details are merely theories of what may have taken place on the evening of May 5th, 1993. Additionally, a bite on the face during murders/attacks is not only common in homosexual attacks, like a bite to the scrotum is, but it also common in Battered Child Syndrome. An attorney for one of the victim's mother dropped the bombshell in court today that she believes her ex-husband Terry Hobbs took part in the killings. Echols is one of three men found guilty in the brutal murders of three eight-year-old boys in West Memphis in 1993. Additionally, the act of biting the scrotum and stabbing the groin area speaks volumes about the identity of the killer. In my opinion, this was smart of Terry. John Douglas claimed to have searched murders all over the world and could not identityone other timethat this method of tying someone up was used. According to his cousin, Rex, this was not true. For one, Michael was tied up with a shoelace that had been cut. and apparently to Pam too, iirc discovering this is what lead to her statement that she believes he was involved in the murder of her son. BLY HE WAS SUPPOSE TO GO MEET JESSIE MISSKELLEY OUT AT LAKESHORE. golden age crime fiction conventions . Then, I believe that Terry began to attack Stevies face by biting him and even possibly striking his face with the corner of the board. For instance: Terry says the two ran in to an older whiteman who told them the boys were heading towards the woods. THAT THE FIVE MAN MAY HAVE CAUGHT THEM? and our (Mountain Home, Arkansas - January 20, 2012) Terry Hobbs' nephew, Michael Hobbs Jr., allegedly told his friends "my uncle Terry murdered those three little boys," according to declarations under penalty of perjury recently given to Damien Echols' defense team. The DNA used for comparison purposes was taken from cigarette butts obtained from an ashtray. On the right side, it appeared as if he had been hit with something that was flat.