Every person is individually responsible to God and will be judged according to the beliefs and practices he or she freely chooses. I dont have a boarden to preform any religious works. Praise God because us getting married and having faith we both grew. If your pastor is telling you otherwise hes a heretic. The end of November we were going to break up because of physical abuse so instead sought counseling for our pastor and his wife. 24. I grew up in a baptist church and went elsewhere after college and I am learning how liberal other churches are and anything goes as long as the people are happy. Im glad they didnt because Id probably be ashamed admitting Im a liar. 14. Many of those things actually do go on at IFB churches, but several of those things are Biblical. Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: I love devotions with the Lord. We went to th IFB church that next day to say we went to get them off our back. Amen! The New Independent Fundamental Baptist network, most prominently associated with anti-LGBTQ pastor Steven Anderson, appears to be in turmoil as infighting again erupts, this time between Anderson and fellow pastors in the network. If you go to a church that sings/plays Just As I Am at the end of every service, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 21. Looks like youve forgotten to include haircuts (length and style of hair). What a typical, legalistic comment from Jason. We believe education in the world is good, but the teaching of evolution needs to be addressed if the individual is a little kid as false doctrine. I can forgive people for offenses committed against me. I dont deserve Gods forgiveness or even my husbands forgiveness. If you think that mental health issues (depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, etc.) Point is that we are to edify with love and meekness all brothers and sisters in Christ, not criticize in front of a lost world. There are a lot of IFB pastors out there like that, the majority of the ones I sat under were like that, they just want to see you do better. You dont just GO WITH THE FLOW. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. The pastor our local congregation is the preaching elder and most Churches of Christ avoid the term, Pastor, when addressing their ministers. You better be right with God and have your name written in the lambs book of life. 24 Blind guides! 18 And you say that to swear by the altar is not binding, but to swear by the gifts on the altar is binding. 40. 25. In the last days, you will get churches like you have described in your initial post, but not all of them are the same. Would the lost or questioning feel that even if someone is attacking your comments, that youre setting an example that they could adopt? What is a Bible Baptist Church, and what do Bible Baptists believe. I like door knocking is any of our church compelled to do so? According to the ADL "Anti-LGBTQ bigotry and antisemitism are fundamental to New IFB ideology, as demonstrated by the doctrinal statements on their websites and the content of their sermons. Pastor preaches against smoking because it is bad for the body My preacher never preaches that though there are very few people at my current church that smoke. God knows the names of his children and for anyone to accuse another of security in Christ is hypocrisy. Pastor and his wife knew where we lived and probably wondered why, but they never asked or pried. They try there best to live for Christ and to give God the glory for everything. Scofield Bible!!!! 20. You should read my article on that: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/, Dont get me wrong but tithing is still scriptural, even within the New Testament. I rarely post on random pages I stumbled upon but by his reaction, he didnt think Dave intended to be offensive to prove a point. Gods will was for me to forgive. If your youth pastor eats a goldfish or gives away a baseball cap for every visitor a child brings, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. (Matthew 28:19-20; Romans 6:4; 1 Corinthians 11:23-32), Every individual, believer and unbeliever, possesses the God-given privilege of free will having the liberty to choose what to believe. That makes no sense. If you are really interested in finding out about my poor experiences with the IFB please read the website rather than make assumptions. This is the only church Ive been to, so I just awsume all Churchs are loving, caring, forgiving, honest, and strive to bring glory to god and its just sad to here that thats not the case. Duh Get your mind out of the gutter. I am also against body piercings as well. 38. I was married when I attended before and now as a divorced woman, I know I probably would be looked down upon. We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. [1], New IFB churches have caused controversy on several occasions, because of their opposition to homosexuality. You consider it a personal failure if you are not able to find a verse within ten seconds, and secretly proud if you are able to find it right away. [7], The New IFB currently lists 30 affiliated congregations on their website. We believe that men are justified by faith alone and are accounted righteous before God only through the merit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. In the past 25 years, Ive seen many children leave but very few come back. https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/. Besides saying that those who practice any of these that arent saved is wrong because that is judging. Womens should not wear pants This is not the case at my congregation. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. If you want a discussion ask for one. 7. I will have to argue that while on vacation we just go to church somewhere else rather than dashing home. Is to help you find a bible believing church, an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, that seeks to serve and honor the Lord Jesus Christ. Plus they believe that one cannot lose his salvation, Eternal Security, or Once Saved, Always Saved on the Calvinist view. These are right on the money! We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God, became man, without ceasing to be God, having been conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, in order that He might reveal God and redeem sinful men (John 1:1-2, 14; Luke 1:35; Isaiah 9:6; 7:14; Philippians 2:5-8; Galatians 4:4-5). N/A Ask questions if you need to and Ill be happy to explain more. The women that I befriended in this church will always be my sister in Christ. Theres a lot that is biblical in your post that we should want to do and some not biblical and therefore should abstain from practice. It took exposure to more mature Christians (who were not not IFB!) 46. Jesus died for all, and if God is willing to forgive me because Jesus died for me than I will forgive another because Jesus died for them too. 10. Yes, we have a tract rack. Read Matthew 23 for more information. If you believe that using guitars in church is too liberal, yet you listen to patch the pirate who uses guitars, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 14. If you believe that someone who smokes, drinks, parties, dances, listens to secular music, listens to Christian contemporary music, etc. I am a member of an IFB church, Many things on the above list dont apply to the church I attend or those with which I have had the opportunity to attend. From my perspective turning people away from the IFB is turning them towards God. 30 Then you say, If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would never have joined them in killing the prophets.. 27 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. (Acts 20:7, Hebrews 10:24-25). You can read more about it here: https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/, I never said the IFB is a cult because some IFB churches may not be the best. God works in mysterious ways. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? You seem to enjoy copying and pasting scripture with no explanation or apparent relevance to the discussion so I thought Id give it a try also. 37. And theyre most likely convinced that Donald Trumps election is really going to make their civil life better! To the author, I hope youll be okay someday and if you can find a way to dig out that root I think youll find peace. Forgiving someone has nothing to do with whether or not you believe that Jesus died for their sins. There are a couple places but, they're all pretty much much secular and worldly. 22 And when you swear by heaven, you are swearing by the throne of God and by God, who sits on the throne. The IFB is the organization hurting His cause. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. Im going back to my independent baptist church where there is no compromising. If you believe that the wine referred to in the Bible is nothing more than fruit of the vine (AKA grape juice), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 26. But what He hates about us is the pride and arrogance in us. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. I must say, I was hoping the list would be more interesting but the fact mixed into the exaggeration of each point was mostly so true it seemed a bit pointless! Its method of operation is subversive. Cleveland Baptist Church - Cleveland, OH - Pastor Kevin Folger ; Community Baptist I think its easy to look at the pastor as an authority figure, someone who holds some position above you, but most of them just want that connection with you, they care, they love you, they just want whats best for you. [4][5], A split in the New IFB occurred in January 2019, after Donnie Romero, pastor at Stedfast Baptist Church-Fort Worth (SBC), resigned after it was revealed he had hired prostitutes, smoked marijuana and gambled. Romans 5:8 is about salvation. 54. If you believe women shouldnt wear pants, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 12. If you should cut your vacation short you should never miss church this has happened only once in my life when I went I was on my senior class trip. If you think that anything other than what your church teaches about salvation is easy believism, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. If you believe that everyone who opposes IFB doctrine is just bitter, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 48. If your church sings Just As I Am at the end of every service We sing that song once in a while since its a good invitational song. Its our personal decisions that cause us to who to hell though most of their practices are not biblical, especially the devotions to the Virgin Mary as they especially have her as the intercessor. First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friends eye. God values his word, even above his own name, and when you or I meet God, what we think means nothing to God, unless it lines up with His Word. If you confuse the KJV with the KJB, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 3.